AE-240
Analog Technologies

Instructor
Eddie Ciletti

Time
5pm Tuesdays

Location
LH-1 CR

Week-9: Zed Lep Studio-2 Session

What a great session!  I know I learned a few new tricks this quarter...
With one remaining class, Please read carefully, and lemme know if there are any typos...

    Listen to the track and whatever you think it needs...
    • if you have musical ideas, do them as homework offline, then bring a CD next week so we can fly in your parts.  Remember I need rhythm track on one channel and your OD on another chanel.  If you have alot of parts, either submix or do multiple CD tracks with your parts.
    • if you have production / mixing ideas, please submit them in advance as part of your written homework assignment.
    • my production ideas are below...
    • I plan on being in super early next Tuesday to clean up.  Anyone that has any free time to make their contributions in advance is very welcome.  I will help you fly in those parts so most of the actual classtime can focus on mixing. 
    • Please let me know who has to leave at 8pm and who can stay later (and how late) so everyone can have a shot at doing what interests them most.  Please also catch up on writing jsut so I can get grades in before mentally czeching out for the hollendaize.
    • if there is something you didn't get to do - or expected to do - please let me know.  Your wish is my desire and all that!


    MIX Notes
    After quickly setting up the mix, it seemed to pass the Polk & Altec test.  What little mixing was done on the small Otari speaker - which is why the bass is so 'upfront.'  There are two mixes, with and without vocals.  I did multiband processed versions of each.  Let me know how it plays...

    Here are my eye-de-yuhs for our final class!

  • DUB VERSION:  Take advantage of the Reggae aspect of the song (see next idea)
  • Zach's OD'd tremelo gtr makes a mistake during the solo that I have come to like - only not in the solo.  To possibly fly that 'mistake' into a part of the song, dropping out almost everything and letting it spin into echo oblivion.
  • My mistake was not rolling the full multitrack reel just to have vocal options.  I never heard Mike's vocal earlier on to know what affect multiple takes had on his voice.  Would love to have some cool vocal parts, hoping that Mike would be into doing this offline - I haven't heard his Yellow Sub vocals but I will get all that up in a day or two.
The original, below, in several flavors to tickle your brain. What I think makes this track is that the band did not adhere to any conventions - except for maybe the piano, which I tried to bring out in on the processed version.  Our week-9 recording sandwiched in...
Original CD Rip
Eddie's Faux Remaster
 week-9 sans vocal
 week-9 sans vocal (proc)
Left only (piano)
Right only (guitars)
week-9 avec vocal
week-9 avec vocal (proc)
Week-8: Zed Lep Rehearsal

Damn this was fun!  Please post pix, and of course, your comments...

Digital
(direct to CDR through Otrai electronics)
Analog
(Rust Never Sleeps)
Zach and Shaun's Mix
Zach and Shaun's
Eddie's Loud Mix
Oops!  Too Loud for Tape Mix
Eddie's Dub Mix
(listen to individual mics)
Zach's Submarine Edits

Geek stuff (to the best of my recollection)

Instrument
mic(s)
preamp + ?
Track (s)
 
         
bass amp
DI
 Vari-Fi JFET
 1
 
bass DI
SM-58
 Modifed LA-3
 2
overhead / Snare
Gretch Catalina
EV-664A
hypercarioid
Altec 1612
preamp / limiter
3
4 feet above the ribbons
Colonial Hallway
OD
MXL 2003
u87 clone
Great River xfrmrless
5 & 6
modified KRK V8
+ computer tape delay
Drum Kit
B&O Ribbons
Great River xfrmrless
+
Modified 
UREI LA-4 
@20:1
7 & 8
Electrified Acoustic
+
modified 
Fender Pro Junior
EV-664
Altec 438
9
Nashville Acoustic
AKG C61
pair
Neve 1272 + Pultec MB-1
10 & 11
 Lead-ish gtr
664
438?
12
Main Leslie Gtr
Fat Head Ribbons
GR xfrmrless
13 & 14
Aux Leslie Gtr
Fat Head Ribbons
GR xfrmrless
15 & 16
Reggae-ish gtr
 VariFi JFET DI
 + Tape delay
17
Week-7:  JUNEBUG Overdubs

WOW!  Thanks to all for helping to make the 'remote recording of overdubs' possible!  I look forward to your reflections...

Here's what we accomplished:  The original rhythm track from early fall is at left, my late night raw rough mix (direct to CDR) in the middle and my 'processed' version with some multiband mastering tweaks.

HandleBar Rhythm Track
HandleBar Raw ODs
HandleBar Proc ODs
Last quarter we recorded JUNEBUG to 24 track and this quarter we are goign to wrap some ODs. 

Here is the punch list:

Handlebar Mustache
  • Vocal harmony (Tony)
  • Bells (tentative on bridge) (Tony)
  • Organ (Dustin)
  • Tambourine (tentative on bridge) (Tony)
  • Acoustic guitar (tentative) (Anthony)
Give Yourself
  • Slide guitar (Dustin)
  • Vocal harmony (Tony)
  • Review bass and kick drum on their intro
  • Bass touch up at 4:25 on sample file.
Destiny, She Drives a Rolls
  • Tambourine on the backbeats of the Spector section (Tony)
  • Backing vocals (Tony)
  • Organ (tentative) (Dustin)
Week-6:  Bounce Yellow Submarine Edits to 24 track, overdub bass, acoustic guitar(s), snare, lead and background vocals and colect sound effects. PLEASE practice your edits, musical parts and collect sound effects!

Below is posted the 5.1 extraction for insigths into the original recording

Our Submarine Edits
Our Submarine ODs
Bonus
dvd-SUB-Front 
dvd-SUB-rear
dvd-SUB-Center + Woofer
Week-5: Yellow Submarine recording

Your homework for week six is to edit the best takes together (for drums and guitars) so that we can bounce and overdub on week-6.

Kick: Shure 576 dynamic omni > UREI LA-3 in preamp mode > Harrison EQ > track-1
Crotch: Nady TCM-1150 vacuum tube condenser in omni > Altec 1612 mixer-limiter > track-2
Overhead: EV-664a subercardioid dynamic > Altec 1612 mixer-limiter - track-2
Acoustic Guitars: EV-635A omni dynamic > Pultec MB-1 tube mic preamp > track-3
Bass: Shure SM-58 > Altec 438 vacuum tube preamp & Variable mucompressor > track-4

The MIX:  Mackie > UREI graphic EQ > Crane Song Limiter-Compressor > Otari tape machine (in INPUT for direct to CDR) and then tape playback to CDR (see visual difference).

 Digital
Analog
Take-1
Take-1
Take-2
Take-2
Take-3
Take-3
Take-4
Take-4
For more visual resolution, alt click on waveforms and 'save as.'
Week-4: Flanging, Flying, Singing, Mixing and Sticky Shed Syndrome

Thanks to Mike Rogers for his wonderful background work!
 

Trouble Bound
with Bkgs and Bass
Week-3: 

A  mix of technical, history, listening, bouncing, mics and mic placement PLUS playing in unfamiliar musical territory.

Thanks to all who participated in the process.  We covered alot of territory.  Thanks to Shaun for brining his bass, and Dillon for his 'pluck' and everyone for their patience and willingness to explore all of the tangents...

The signal path was:  Vin-Jet > Altec 438 > Tape > console > CraneSong Compressor-Limiter >CD burner.

Trouble Bound with Bass Flat
Trouble Bound with Bass EQ
After class, Michael experimented with various mic combos:  SM-7 (All EQ settings), SM-57 (stock), SM-57 transformerless, Vin-Jet and Reslo.  Generally speaking the modified SM-57 fared well, The Vin-Jet and Reslo Ribbons did nicely and we learned that the SM-7 really wants to be a vocal mic because it's off axis response is a bit boxey.
 
 

Week-2: Paul Flynn session

Please note:  For some reason there was a channel imbalance on the stereo mix, possibly because the compressor-limiter on the mix buss was not linked.  The right channel seems to be compressed/limited while the left is not.  The entire left channel was brought up about 4dB to  compensate.  PLEASE listen to as many tracks as you can in order to hear the changes we made during the session and report on the overall sound.
 

REEL-1
REEL-2
   
 1-choose_1a
8-misery_1a
2-choose_1b
9-buddy_1a
3-trouble_1a
 10-change-1a
4-trouble_1b
11-walkin_1a
5-trouble_1c
12-LonesomeV_1a
6-religion_1a
13-buddy_1b
7-religion_1b
13-buddy_1b_proc
   

Week-1: Audio History, Tape Machine basics, Editing Tape

Well Done!  Razors blades for all and no blood!

For your listening pleasure...